Comments on: The Attractional Church http://www.billyhornsby.com/2010/03/the-attractional-church/ The Blog of Billy Hornsby Tue, 31 Jan 2012 17:30:21 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Mark Mohler http://www.billyhornsby.com/2010/03/the-attractional-church/comment-page-1/#comment-9604 Mark Mohler Fri, 15 Apr 2011 16:47:22 +0000 http://www.billyhornsby.com/?p=97#comment-9604 I think the key to living balanced in the Attractional/Missional Paradigms is to remember what you are attracting them to, better yet Who you are attracting them to. If attractional churches attract to gain sinze then they are off base, but if they attract in order to change lives and send those transformed people out to witness then the attraction takes on a missional focus. At waht point does the discussion turn into bantering over symantics? I think the key to living balanced in the Attractional/Missional Paradigms is to remember what you are attracting them to, better yet Who you are attracting them to. If attractional churches attract to gain sinze then they are off base, but if they attract in order to change lives and send those transformed people out to witness then the attraction takes on a missional focus. At waht point does the discussion turn into bantering over symantics?

]]> By: Ryan Shelley http://www.billyhornsby.com/2010/03/the-attractional-church/comment-page-1/#comment-9217 Ryan Shelley Sat, 02 Apr 2011 17:43:28 +0000 http://www.billyhornsby.com/?p=97#comment-9217 Great read and outstanding comments. When we live as "sent people" who carry the message for a loving God our communities can't resist the power of the gospel. Many tend to forget that Paul became all things to all people so that he could effectively share the gospel! When we live our lives in this way we attract people to the love of Christ. Again, great article! Great read and outstanding comments. When we live as “sent people” who carry the message for a loving God our communities can’t resist the power of the gospel. Many tend to forget that Paul became all things to all people so that he could effectively share the gospel! When we live our lives in this way we attract people to the love of Christ. Again, great article!

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]]> By: Tim Stevens http://www.billyhornsby.com/2010/03/the-attractional-church/comment-page-1/#comment-3140 Tim Stevens Tue, 26 Oct 2010 20:54:22 +0000 http://www.billyhornsby.com/?p=97#comment-3140 I'm preparing my talk for the AND Conference that is next week and just found this post. Wow. That's all I can say. You have stated so well what I want our attendees to hear. I’m preparing my talk for the AND Conference that is next week and just found this post. Wow. That’s all I can say. You have stated so well what I want our attendees to hear.

]]> By: Billy http://www.billyhornsby.com/2010/03/the-attractional-church/comment-page-1/#comment-235 Billy Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:37:16 +0000 http://www.billyhornsby.com/?p=97#comment-235 Jon, thanks for your comment. I believe that there are tons of pastors who have attractional churches that have been confused by some of the articles and books that have been written that portray the Attractional Church in a negative light. Hope this helps them. Mike, you are not crazy! Dave, they do work..... Jon, thanks for your comment. I believe that there are tons of pastors who have attractional churches that have been confused by some of the articles and books that have been written that portray the Attractional Church in a negative light. Hope this helps them.

Mike, you are not crazy!

Dave, they do work…..

]]> By: Mike Shay http://www.billyhornsby.com/2010/03/the-attractional-church/comment-page-1/#comment-234 Mike Shay Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:12:23 +0000 http://www.billyhornsby.com/?p=97#comment-234 Thanks Billy! Since being with ARC I keep telling myself, "I knew I wasn't crazy! I knew I wasn't crazy! There ARE people who think like I'm thinking!" Thanks for leading with the Spirit and affirming what He is doing in all of us! Thanks Billy!

Since being with ARC I keep telling myself, “I knew I wasn’t crazy! I knew I wasn’t crazy! There ARE people who think like I’m thinking!” Thanks for leading with the Spirit and affirming what He is doing in all of us!

]]> By: Jon Hamp http://www.billyhornsby.com/2010/03/the-attractional-church/comment-page-1/#comment-233 Jon Hamp Wed, 10 Mar 2010 13:30:30 +0000 http://www.billyhornsby.com/?p=97#comment-233 Thanks for the clarifying blog Billy. I think I wasted too much time in the early days of vision development deciding "are we 'attractional' or are we 'missional'" The real question is: "Who am I, and how do I feel most natural doing ministry" followed by "would that work in the community I feel called too." To be honest, I have stopped trying to fit into anyones definition of missional, attractional, or organic. We are Discovery Church of Parker and we have seen 63 people accept Christ since our launch in Sept '09. Now, we're seeing those same people get involved in Discovery Groups and be discipled by learning what it means to follow Christ, become good stewards of their finances, improve their marriages, and become better parents. If that is not effectively reaching our community, then the group of people who associate themselves with Discovery haven't figured that out yet! :-) Blessings all! Thanks for the clarifying blog Billy. I think I wasted too much time in the early days of vision development deciding “are we ‘attractional’ or are we ‘missional’” The real question is: “Who am I, and how do I feel most natural doing ministry” followed by “would that work in the community I feel called too.” To be honest, I have stopped trying to fit into anyones definition of missional, attractional, or organic. We are Discovery Church of Parker and we have seen 63 people accept Christ since our launch in Sept ‘09. Now, we’re seeing those same people get involved in Discovery Groups and be discipled by learning what it means to follow Christ, become good stewards of their finances, improve their marriages, and become better parents. If that is not effectively reaching our community, then the group of people who associate themselves with Discovery haven’t figured that out yet! :-) Blessings all!

]]> By: Michael Trent http://www.billyhornsby.com/2010/03/the-attractional-church/comment-page-1/#comment-232 Michael Trent Tue, 09 Mar 2010 22:51:28 +0000 http://www.billyhornsby.com/?p=97#comment-232 Billy, I'm so glad that you are leading this discussion. I know that we each had solid dialogue recently with Alan Hirsch and each of you are men of integrity that have the opportunity and ability to have and open conversation of "both / and" - I've been playing with The Attractive Church Theory - as if we need more labels right :) http://thirdplaceconsulting.com/2009/12/the-attractive-church-theory/ Michael Trent @ChurchBartender Billy,

I’m so glad that you are leading this discussion. I know that we each had solid dialogue recently with Alan Hirsch and each of you are men of integrity that have the opportunity and ability to have and open conversation of “both / and” -

I’ve been playing with The Attractive Church Theory – as if we need more labels right :)
http://thirdplaceconsulting.com/2009/12/the-attractive-church-theory/

Michael Trent
@ChurchBartender

]]> By: Joseph Garza http://www.billyhornsby.com/2010/03/the-attractional-church/comment-page-1/#comment-231 Joseph Garza Tue, 09 Mar 2010 22:41:58 +0000 http://www.billyhornsby.com/?p=97#comment-231 Wow!! These are amazing comments. It's good to know so many of us in ARC and beyond have the same heart and values in ministry. Proud to be an ARC church!! http://newgenerationfellowship.net Wow!! These are amazing comments. It’s good to know so many of us in ARC and beyond have the same heart and values in ministry. Proud to be an ARC church!!

http://newgenerationfellowship.net

]]> By: Larry Clark http://www.billyhornsby.com/2010/03/the-attractional-church/comment-page-1/#comment-230 Larry Clark Tue, 09 Mar 2010 17:20:41 +0000 http://www.billyhornsby.com/?p=97#comment-230 Some churches think they are an attractive church but they are more like a revolving door church. They have great worship, biblically sound sermons but the people do not know how or do not want to be attractive. Jesus was attractive because He exhibited compassion and people who feel cared for will return but those who do not feel cared for will leave even if there is great worhsip and biblically sound sermons. I was involved with a church whose pastor thinks the church is attractive and on the surface it is. But rarely do vistors become committed followers of Jesus. The pastor has not been able to move the peopleto take on the third side to the triangle. As a result many are like me they drive 20 minutes to churches that have learned to have great worship, biblically sound sermons and compassionate people. Some churches think they are an attractive church but they are more like a revolving door church. They have great worship, biblically sound sermons but the people do not know how or do not want to be attractive. Jesus was attractive because He exhibited compassion and people who feel cared for will return but those who do not feel cared for will leave even if there is great worhsip and biblically sound sermons.

I was involved with a church whose pastor thinks the church is attractive and on the surface it is. But rarely do vistors become committed followers of Jesus. The pastor has not been able to move the peopleto take on the third side to the triangle.

As a result many are like me they drive 20 minutes to churches that have learned to have great worship, biblically sound sermons and compassionate people.

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