Comments on: The Vocational Church http://www.billyhornsby.com/2009/12/the-vocational-church/ The Blog of Billy Hornsby Tue, 31 Jan 2012 17:30:21 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: M » The Truth About The Attractional Model http://www.billyhornsby.com/2009/12/the-vocational-church/comment-page-1/#comment-14289 M » The Truth About The Attractional Model Sun, 21 Aug 2011 21:14:36 +0000 http://www.billyhornsby.com/?p=95#comment-14289 [...] if we replaced “Attractional” with any of the suggestions above. In an older post, Bill Hornsby, offers an excellent replacement word for “attractional”.  What people mean, he [...] [...] if we replaced “Attractional” with any of the suggestions above. In an older post, Bill Hornsby, offers an excellent replacement word for “attractional”.  What people mean, he [...]

]]> By: Umair http://www.billyhornsby.com/2009/12/the-vocational-church/comment-page-1/#comment-14246 Umair Sat, 20 Aug 2011 21:43:48 +0000 http://www.billyhornsby.com/?p=95#comment-14246 We research the village of Janiwala near the city of Toba Tek Singh. When we visit there then we saw that so much Christian’s peoples are needy and looking for help from the God. We visit different houses. Children’s play in the street all day because in this village no school and no church. But children’s are so much hard work but still looking for the study way. We are trying to distribute the food bags in the village. We need your prayers. The report is available upon request. If interested please email us brothergoodness@yahoo.com . We research the village of Janiwala near the city of Toba Tek Singh. When we visit there then we saw that so much Christian’s peoples are needy and looking for help from the God. We visit different houses. Children’s play in the street all day because in this village no school and no church. But children’s are so much hard work but still looking for the study way. We are trying to distribute the food bags in the village. We need your prayers. The report is available upon request. If interested please email us brothergoodness@yahoo.com .

]]> By: Umair http://www.billyhornsby.com/2009/12/the-vocational-church/comment-page-1/#comment-14244 Umair Sat, 20 Aug 2011 21:38:27 +0000 http://www.billyhornsby.com/?p=95#comment-14244 Zahid s/o Mushtaq Masih is of 4 months and living in a village 320 G-B Janiwala near Toba Tek Singh city. Zahid has tumor on his back. His father Mushtaq Masih is working on a brick kiln factory and is indebted for Rs. 25,000. He has 5 children 3 daughters and 2 sons and Zahid is at last. There are total 7 members in Zahid’s family and her father is only earning member of the family. Zahid’s father daily income is approximately Rs. 140 (less than $2) and it is very difficult for him to run his family in less income so his family is living from hand to mouth. Zahid’s father is also indebted for 30,000 and after deduction he get next to none money for looking after of his family. The owner of the brick kiln factory does not allow them to go anywhere else till they do not pay the loan of Rs. 30,000. Zahid has tumor on his back by birth and doctors advised him operation which is very costly and because his family is a poor family and they are already spending their lives from hand to mouth, so it is very difficult for them to pay the heavy fees of doctors and bear the expenditures of operation which are approximately Rs. 4200 ($500). In the beginning it was minor but with the passage of time it is growing. The staff members of IES visited the home of Zahid and found that they are really in need and our little help can save a life of a child. If you want then I can send you more details about Zahid and his family. God bless you always In his hands, Zahid s/o Mushtaq Masih is of 4 months and living in a village 320 G-B Janiwala near Toba Tek Singh city. Zahid has tumor on his back. His father Mushtaq Masih is working on a brick kiln factory and is indebted for Rs. 25,000. He has 5 children 3 daughters and 2 sons and Zahid is at last. There are total 7 members in Zahid’s family and her father is only earning member of the family. Zahid’s father daily income is approximately Rs. 140 (less than $2) and it is very difficult for him to run his family in less income so his family is living from hand to mouth. Zahid’s father is also indebted for 30,000 and after deduction he get next to none money for looking after of his family. The owner of the brick kiln factory does not allow them to go anywhere else till they do not pay the loan of Rs. 30,000.

Zahid has tumor on his back by birth and doctors advised him operation which is very costly and because his family is a poor family and they are already spending their lives from hand to mouth, so it is very difficult for them to pay the heavy fees of doctors and bear the expenditures of operation which are approximately Rs. 4200 ($500). In the beginning it was minor but with the passage of time it is growing. The staff members of IES visited the home of Zahid and found that they are really in need and our little help can save a life of a child.

If you want then I can send you more details about Zahid and his family.

God bless you always

In his hands,

]]> By: Pastor Bob Roach http://www.billyhornsby.com/2009/12/the-vocational-church/comment-page-1/#comment-220 Pastor Bob Roach Thu, 17 Dec 2009 20:55:38 +0000 http://www.billyhornsby.com/?p=95#comment-220 The Vocational Church: I read your brief description on the vocational Church and felt that it should be renamed the vocational pastor. Jesus called these kinds of pastors’ hirelings. The prophets called them false shepherds that were often preceded by the words "woe unto you." I have pastored for over 35 years in various denominations. I have pastored mega churches, small churches, and in-between churches, no matter the size of the Church they all functioned according in the same mode. They were all was based on programs; programs that were designed to build up the church and to promote all too often the pastor’s ministry. Christianity to a large extent has become a religion that is based on the concepts and ideals of the world’s business institutions. The church for most part has become an entertainment spectacle and big business. It has become a place of generational ascendancy and can be seen as a family business, nepotism is the norm in far to many places. Religion has replaced relationship and success has replaced significance. The church of today is often viewed by the world as one of many social exchanges. For the last 10 years we have been doing pure home church ministry. We continually are examing the book of Acts as our Church vision. We have seen lives changed, relationships established, maintained and nurtured. We have seen families restored. Evangelism has become a normal everyday outreach of the Church, it is lived and we have seen many lives changed as ordinary Christians do extraordinary exploits for Christ. There is so much more I wish I could say. In the Masters Service Pastor Bob The Vocational Church: I read your brief description on the vocational Church and felt that it should be renamed the vocational pastor. Jesus called these kinds of pastors’ hirelings. The prophets called them false shepherds that were often preceded by the words “woe unto you.” I have pastored for over 35 years in various denominations. I have pastored mega churches, small churches, and in-between churches, no matter the size of the Church they all functioned according in the same mode. They were all was based on programs; programs that were designed to build up the church and to promote all too often the pastor’s ministry. Christianity to a large extent has become a religion that is based on the concepts and ideals of the world’s business institutions. The church for most part has become an entertainment spectacle and big business. It has become a place of generational ascendancy and can be seen as a family business, nepotism is the norm in far to many places. Religion has replaced relationship and success has replaced significance. The church of today is often viewed by the world as one of many social exchanges. For the last 10 years we have been doing pure home church ministry. We continually are examing the book of Acts as our Church vision. We have seen lives changed, relationships established, maintained and nurtured. We have seen families restored. Evangelism has become a normal everyday outreach of the Church, it is lived and we have seen many lives changed as ordinary Christians do extraordinary exploits for Christ. There is so much more I wish I could say.
In the Masters Service
Pastor Bob

]]> By: Tim Ferrill http://www.billyhornsby.com/2009/12/the-vocational-church/comment-page-1/#comment-219 Tim Ferrill Thu, 17 Dec 2009 20:18:07 +0000 http://www.billyhornsby.com/?p=95#comment-219 I couldn't agree more with you Billy! I was a part of a mainline denomination full of Vocational Churches lead by Vocational Pastors. I never felt a part of the "pack." When I found out about the ARC and attended my first ARC Conference I said to myself and the others with me, "We finally found our Tribe!" Thanks for your continued leadership and trust in us young pastors. You are a great mentor and leader. I consider myself blessed to be an ARC Church Planter! I couldn’t agree more with you Billy! I was a part of a mainline denomination full of Vocational Churches lead by Vocational Pastors. I never felt a part of the “pack.” When I found out about the ARC and attended my first ARC Conference I said to myself and the others with me, “We finally found our Tribe!” Thanks for your continued leadership and trust in us young pastors. You are a great mentor and leader. I consider myself blessed to be an ARC Church Planter!

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